Making a Meal of It — episode 101: Food Relationships
In this inaugural episode, we set the stage for a season of deep dives into some big food themes, starting with relationality and how the multiple, overlapping ways in which we interact with food make it the most complex and delightful relationship that any of us participates in. The show kicks off with a couple of examples of complexity, one musical, one edible. That leads into a conversation with the philosopher of food, Lisa Heldke, who explains why philosophy is like plumbing—an infrastructure that sits behind the walls of our day-to-day experiences, provides critical services to keep things going, and hopefully doesn’t spring a leak at crucial moments. We then hear from Taylor Cocalis Suarez, a food entrepreneur who blends theory and practice to slowly but surely change the culture of labour. The show wraps up with David and his partner, Maxime, tasting something really awful (a bit of banana), and a poetic and multilingual response to the MMI Food Questionnaire by composer-conductor, Sandeep Bhagwati.
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Episode 101: Food Relationships
Duration: 00:53:22
Guests:
Lisa Heldke is a pragmatist feminist philosopher of food who teaches at Gustavus Adolphus College, a small liberal arts college in St. Peter, Minnesota. She’s the author or co-editor of several books on food, including Philosophers at Table: On Food and Being Human, and Exotic Appetites: Ruminations of a Food Adventurer. In her dreams, she is a world-class bread baker, while in reality she’s merely decent. In the summer she lives in a yurt on the coast of Maine. In the winter, she skijors with her husky every chance she gets.
Taylor Cocalis lives near Hudson, NY where she spends her time connecting with humans and the natural world. She divides her time among the Suarez Family Brewery (which she runs with her significant other Dan Suarez), the job search community Good Food Jobs (which she shapes with her partner and friend Dorothy Neagle), cooking with her kids Mira and Enzo, and tending to the garden.
Sandeep Bhagwati is a professor in the Department of Music at Concordia University in Montreal. He is an award-winning composer, theatre director, and media artist, and his compositions and comprovisations in all genres (including six operas) have been performed by leading performers at leading venues and festivals worldwide. He founded and currently directs matralab, a research/creation center for intercultural and interdisciplinary arts.
Host/Producer: David Szanto
Music: Story Mode
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segments
00:03:50
Lisa Heldke and the philosophy of food
00:21:45
Taylor Cocalis Suarez and food labour
00:37:25
‘Stick This in Your Mouth!’ (the banana edition)
00:44:54
the Food Questionnaire with Sandeep Bhagwati
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